In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Yeah. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. 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I had been investigating Harvest for months. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Right? I just thought, yeah. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 This is James said what he said. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Church, Ministry News So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Great! They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. James MacDonald. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. . What Happens Now? But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. Hes asking for money. Thanks that is hilarious!! Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. Im sad for his fall. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. Thanks! (Proverbs 27:12). Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. So were in the meeting. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. And this was a spiritual battle. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. This is not my judgment but that of his elders from HBC. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. How can we approve this? Thats what the weight was. That way youll never miss an episode. So he did that. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. We all need to do it together, etc, etc. One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. And I dont need to know. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I listened to it. While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. Thats a Tuesday night. I think of a few things Julie. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. Im Julie Roys. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. Am I characterizing that correctly? But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. 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There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. Because Julie, I knew that, even if Id gotten the chance to read it in front of Harvest, which would have been really hard, but would have been healing to people. Great! And again, this was on the churchs dime. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. Ive already told you there was consensus from board. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. Thats right. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. I need to repent. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. Good to be here. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. 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So you werent part of the lawsuit. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. Wives submit to your husbands. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. And when I read that, I just shook my head. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. The marriage relationship has died. And I know it was a battle. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. Thats about my attitude lately. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. MacDonald is a successful American religious entrepreneur. But would he have been able to save face do you think? And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. And then he apologized. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. And to give you the flavor of the meeting, when I walked in the room, and we all greeted each other, we were in the former executive pastors office around an oval table, and James McDonald sitting across from me. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. We knew I needed to do it. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. SMH. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. Gary, This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. Its come to this. I knew what the topic was. Tragically . No one takes joy in doing this. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. . Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. I am so sorry to report that he has not changed. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. Literally more than two dozen people. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. Yeah Cynthia. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. So he was fired. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. . Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! And I checked my voicemail. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. Marin, So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic Julie Roys October 8, 2020. Hi. And it was a pretty tough meeting. Again, youre seeing it from a total other perspective where Im the bad guy, James is a good guy. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. Visconti wins the Internet! . The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. Thankfully, I had headphones on. For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. I pray for the man. And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. The airing accelerated the timeline. To donate, click here. No One Knows. Come out of her, my people. After you guys. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. And we were at a stalemate. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". Should have that should have been enough of enough of a clue for me to say, Wait, wait, wait, thats a check. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Hi. | (Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel video screen grab) Harvest Bible Chapel has dropped a lawsuit against author and journalist Julie Roys and the writers of the Elephant's Debt blog amid public scrutiny for an alleged culture of fear, intimidation, and financial mismanagement. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. Is that how it went down? I payed for you and James. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. Is that an accurate representation? On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. Tim, thanks I should have read before commenting and exactly! Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. And I just felt this incredible weight. To myself, I said, and do our job. And the things that were done to them after they left. None of those charges were looked into. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. She declined. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? And welcome to the podcast. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. And I want to help people lead the church well. And I know its cost you personally. They said no, for various reasons. I think there was a group in the in the room that would have let him have the microphone that weekend. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! How can a husband love his wife as Christ loved the church when he is emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abusive? I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. Just saying a lot of vile things. Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? And everybody had to say, right? But it was dark. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. Okay. 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